TD MVA tools in the work...

[BPh]

Thks Laurie, I'll stay tuned ... 

[Riesenberg448]

You guys are amazing to say the least.  The way I look at it is, ride through objects are better than no custom objects.  A stock object can be placed inside to make it atleast somewhat solid.

[VMX_SKYmx99]

Yes they are amazing.  I can't wait to see what gets released for this game. :-)

[BPh]

Still beeing tuned

[cR]

Why do you guys keep saying that you don't know about the DXG and DXT file format? Even starting discussions to crack the formats...

You've converted them from MXU to MCM2 a long time ago now... so you can convert DXG to SLT and DXT to TGA, shouldn't be to hard for you then to make an application or something to do that backwards.

Oh and for the guys just reading this you might be thinking 'That was with MXU files not MvA', MXU files are the same as MvA.

[mcm2boys]

I answered this over at central but for TD viewers here goes again:

Converting DXG->SLT is different than SLT->DXG, because DXG is more complicated and a binary format. It's easier to pull just the stuff out of a file format (DXG) that you need but much harder to build a file in a format unless you understand every byte of information in the file. We were working on SLT->DXG but because of personal and time reasons that work has stopped.

DXT - i believe there is already a tool to do that so this wasn't a high priority for us, although it is now being worked on, and also isn't just a simple case of doing DXT->TGA backwards.

I haven't started any discussions about cracking DXG/DXT formats, mainly because it's one of the places that i get my kicks so i like to do that myself without any help.

Finally, i think some people forget that this is what we at TD do for fun.


Laurie

[mcm2boys]

On a lighter note here are some screenies of Unleashed Editor Too [UE2]. Please remember that because it appears in the screenie doesn't mean it will or does work on the released version.   As you can see it looks pretty much the same as the latest versions of D2, there's still quite a bit of work to do on it..

Click on image for a larger version:





Laurie

[VRT_JPRLisbon_]

  looks good, thks

[BPh]

Haaaaaaa some pics for us, thanks 

[ATR_RaTaX2]

looks really cool, tighten up that track spline tho:)

[Nikhil]

Any more progress?

[_MUD_Drifter0]

hey Laurie... any further ground gained on Dillo Too for MVA.... been really anxious to chk this out

[tobz18]

Its been a while, perhaps theyve hit a brick wall with the project?

[cR]

What's the hold up for an I/O DXG script/plugin for 3D Max? Or at least one for that crappy milkshape or something...

[Fixer]

What's the hold up for an I/O DXG script/plugin for 3D Max? Or at least one for that crappy milkshape or something...

There is no hold up... all you have to do is make one.

[cR]

What's the hold up for an I/O DXG script/plugin for 3D Max? Or at least one for that crappy milkshape or something...

There is no hold up... all you have to do is make one.

Good reply Fixer,  I wish I could make one but I'm just an artist not a coder, so I can't make one. I know that you TD guys (or at least one of you) knows the f*cking format... you converted them to SLT so why not release some info or something... and don't give any bullsh*t that you don't know or anything..., like starting a thread at MvA Central about how to figure out the format on files while you allready f*cking know. you converted them to SLT so you at least know about the format so give up something, if it's not a tool or a plugin then AT LEAST shed some light to us about the file format so whe can try to get someone from outside the community to help us... or are you afraid someone else will take credit for something you COULD have done...

[Fixer]

My advise to you is to stop making demands or you might find yourself BANNED AGAIN.... like you were before.

Do you reallly want that?

Using expletives and making demands is a very good reason as far as I'm concerned.

[cR]

Like the last time... I knew how to convert SLT's and get them back into 3D Max or any program and some of you TD guys basicly made me out as a rippe. Afraid they got ripped and used in Mr3? But ripping from Mr3 and putting in MCM2 was ok, anyways that was a long time ago so I'll leave it alone now. I don't really care about beeing banned here or not. All I want is to be able to create some new bike models, or make some new custom objects for tracks (with or without col files for now).

[Bulldog]

Maybe I'm not remembering correctly but I thought Laurie explained that going from the DXG is not the same as going to the DXG and he had not worked it all out yet.  Like I say, maybe I'm wrong but I believe that is what he said and is still the case.  That being said, if you want help from outside the community then go ahead and have someone else work on it.  Laurie sharing what he has found is completely up to him.  And if you don't like the time frame it takes for him to feel comfortable sharing his info then that's just too bad.  Deal with it or go find your outside person to work on it.

Demanding things from Laurie, Bruce and the other programmers here is not going to help your cause.  Being a jerk about it will more than likely just delay the release of information even longer.

You obviously don't know much about the TD crew.  It has nothing to do with credit.  It has everything to do with figuring out things on our own.  If we share our info early then it takes the fun out of it for the crew.

Pete

[DirtTwister]

CR I still don't understand why you feel that you are entitled to anyinformation that we have.  The way you are acting in this thread pretty much guarantees that people won't want to help you.

Stripping information from a file is different then creating the file.  A good example is the TDF file.  It's easy to retrieve and display the spline, but to create from scratch a spline that you know is valid isn't so easy.  You can test it out and see that you may be doing it good enough, but you don't know if you are causing some other problem because of the way you created it.   DXG is the same thing only even more so.

Bruce