PR: MXvsATV coming to the PC and PSP

[Green_CRrider2]

i have just recently got a job (im only 15) so it would be tough for me to afford bandwidth and stuff but if i can get my hands on a cheap comp and im supposably getting dsl soon i can make a myhttp.com acount and mabye get a sponsor or something to provide me with a domain.  a 150 to 400 gb hard drive should be more then enough tell me what u think.

[Green_CRrider2]

oh and if i do come across a comp and am able to set one up i would need some help with the website to set up uploads and stuff like that

[Metla666]

Seems to be a bucket load of misconceptions about using torrents, It does not steal your bandwidth, You set it up exactly how you wish, You can set the upload/download speed, amount of connections, simply remove the file from the list so its no longer shared, or close the program and launch it later when your not playing the game online in order to share the file for awhile. It would only take a few minutes to get a 1.1 ratio.

The files themselves are defined by the tracker, So its not random files, its controlled distribution, There is no more chance of getting a dodgy file then there is of getting one from any site hosting files.

And I can’t see anyone saying it should be the only solution, If you can't comprehend how it works or simply prefer other methods then do whatever suits, That doesn't make Torrents a bad idea, and it certainly isn't in the same realm as scumware like Kazza.

It is however a fast and efficient distribution method for files and it shares the load for those that wish to leave the program running for a few minutes, or in my case I seed files for at least a 24 hour period before removing them from the program.

[DirtTwister]

That's exactly what is meant by stealing your bandwidth.  In order for it to work properly with reasonable speed you need to be serving files.  The data leaving your computer is what is referred to as "stolen bandwidth".  It's fine if you want to do that.

I never want to do that.

Bruce

[Metla666]

Contributing, not stealing.

And if the eventual track hub for the new game has torrent capabilities then I will most certainly try that method first,and as such contribute to sharing the load rather then just suck off somebodies server.

[V_Muskaman]

There is only a consequence for not sharing if it is regulated that way. Many sites have no sharing requirement.

Of course the idea is that everyone shares as much or more as they DL and I see no problem in a system of 'whats fair is fair'. Why not let people steal your bandwidth if it isn't being used? Like he said, shut down your client when you need the bandwidth, start it when you don't.

[Green_CRrider2]

ya but for the ppl on dialup they might be in the middle of a download ah they need the bandwidth bang ur download is ruined.  torrent is *#*#* if u ask me.

[ElDiablo (Paul)]

Well...if you guys are opposed to Bittorrents then the solution is simple....DON'T USE THEM!

The reality of the situation is this...IF Central goes back up it will support ONLY MX vs ATV files (depending on what those are...it's not clear wether skins will be possible with the new game). IF Central goes back up it will most likely take advantage of ALL the solutions mentioned here. So you guys that don't like torrents won't HAVE to use them. You other guys that prefer downloading from mirrors (slower or bandwidth limited FREE links) can go that way AND you guys that want and can afford to support the community can pay for fast downloads up to 500kbps. Then you CREATORS who want to host your own tracks can post links to them on the site and thereby take the bandwidth load off of the website.

In other words...EVERYONE's suggestions have been good and none of them could be ignored...so all of them would be used. That should make EVERYONE happy!

[V_Muskaman]

Yeah CR, I mentioned that earlier. Just getting the facts straight is all.

[ToaDsiX]

well said ElDiablo

[AUS_Twisted]

You can limit your upload speed to 3kb/sec with Bit Tornado, not sure about the other torrent clients. But 3kb/sec should work no problem on dialup aswell allowing you to still download at a faster speed.

[Metla666]

Hmmmm.....I found Torrents unusable on dialup, no matter how I configured the connection and sharing parameters. Imo it’s not of much use to people on Dial-up....

Azureus would be my recommendation.

http://azureus.sourceforge.net/

[VRT_Moto]

This is definately a great post... I find it even better that old names are coming out of the wood work. I remember all of you from MCM1, but maybe we should bring back that post of what our names were back in the MCM1 days because I'm sure you old folks will be making a stand again.

All this talk about a new game with the same familiar faces just makes me want to wet myself.

I have a suggestion I'm not sure was presented yet. Since we have some time before the release and there is talks of Central coming back up... how about we start a PayPal account for 'MXUCentral'. That way we can start a fund and have some monopoly money for kicking site?
I got a 50 spot if someone wants to setup a account and manage it.

-Moto

[cR]

How about a website like MCM Factory but with 2 types of accounts:

1. Free account, you can upload a track and if it hits 300 downloads you get a new upload.

2. Payed account, you can upload a track and if it hits 150 downloads you get a new upload.

Something like that... or work with credits...

Uploading a track or skin costs for example 10 credits for each 5MB, you can get credits by letting people join using a personal id link or call a number on the phone or sms... but that's gonna be hard setting up international...

[BoNalls]

any form of torrent is BANNED from my University...... not sure how it is for other colleges out there.

Aswell as P2P programs. Only thing i am able to use is MyTunes Reflux to download songs, which is based off of a WAN.

[AMA_King]

Well, this is a TRIP...
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I look forward to tracks made specifically for the trucks and buggies - that could be pretty cool!  Anyway - there are a TON of killer objects already in the game and if they can ALL be used w/ the editor, that would ROCK!  I know you guys will make some killer tracks!

Geeze, I wish I had more time... 
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Xfire.com - DEVS are very flexible and "forward thinking...  Xfire is "the GAMERz IM'er" - I'm pretty sure it has peer to peer file sharing, cue-ing & suspending / resuming of DL's [while / after] you PLAY a game or RACE. 

It even has in game voice chat + MANY other options & stats of your games & hours spent in game, etc.  

Maybe it can be tweaked for this community?

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Some other ideas:  How about a TD "SUBSCRIBER" status w/ a optional pay system for DL's like FilePlanet?  Maybe it would allow only 10 tracks / 150 mb's per month FREE via DL - and 30 a month to subscribers, etc.  FREE users can search for more tracks via peer to peer or from the creators sites - which are listed in thier profiles! 

I hope there will be a "TOP TRACK" ranking system like we discussed right here a while back:
It would be generated by a list of favorites the users and track creators maintain in their profile!

Top 50 Voting SYSTEM
http://dirttwister.com/smf/index.php?topic=505.0

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[Green_CRrider2]

well i for one will be uploading my tracks to my personal space and mabye the website built can have an option a full upload link so that when u click on the download button it acts like its being download right from site only link is the personal link site.  and the option of a direct file upload.  If im able to get a few extra bucks il be donating when i can.  but im not sure do they issue paypal to 15 year olds i always thought its 18 and older.

[RRC_OiLbUrNeR]

Guys you are killing this game before it has been released. Nobody is going to pay money to use a website, it will just turn people away from the game, torrents is also out of the question as the majority of people cant use it. The only real way is the normal way eg. www.mcmfactory.com, i know its expenisive to run but someone has to do it and its the  only way mcm2 is still hanging on by its last leg. If mcmfactory cost money to use it mcm2 would have complety died a few years back. If you want to do it another way what was posted above is by, having the track pic on one page and then the track maker upload it to a free upload site eg. www.filefront.com, www.filefactory.com etc.

I was just looking at filefront.com and they actually have upload slots for games here mcm2's. http://software.filefront.com/Motocross+Madness+2_Information/;402;/software_information.html  ...... This could work???

Free registration for file front, here is what you get for free membership www.fastpass.filefront.com

[V_Muskaman]

As much as this topic is getting worn and torn before the issue is an issue...three points

1) I would support advertising as a source of funds, much as Central did.

2) Bandwidth limiting could work. The tracks that will leech the most bandwidth are made by dedicated creators, who are connected with many in the community. These people tend to have personal web space or can borrow some from buds they know. If anyone who could were to post a seperate link it would relieve the server load and hopefully keep the normal DL wait time to a minimum.

3) It's incredibly important that we have a good track sharing system in place and a good attitude as new folks join the community and as vets rejoin. Without this there won't be much of a reason for them to stay. I was drawn to MCM2 because of these things. Let's not get too caught up in the tech though! 

[ElDiablo (Paul)]

Guys you are killing this game before it has been released. Nobody is going to pay money to use a website, it will just turn people away from the game, torrents is also out of the question as the majority of people cant use it.

Obviously you didn't take the time to READ what has been posted so far...because people are saying (quite clearly) that all of the solutions that we have mentioned (and you have mentioned) would work for them. Killing the game? How about YOU make a website and YOU pay the bill to host it? A bit EXTREME there buddy!

We are here BRAINSTORMING and trying to cover ALL bases to create a website so YOU (and the rest of the community) can play this NEW game. The only people KILLING the game are people moaning about the pay option. Like I said before...if that option doesn't work for YOU...DON'T USE IT! There are STILL the FREE options...if they are a bit slower (aka the OLD Central), well either DEAL with it...or pony up some FLOW and pay for faster downloads.