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Started by |RBW|faKt0r, November 30, 2005, 06:47:37 PM

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VMX_CrAzEd

I think the bitorrent is a good idea, for sure.

I know there are some doubts that people would donate, but I for one will donate and pay a yearly service for sure/ And thats cool, cause Im one of the cheapest bastards around. Be proud

ToaDsiX

It would be really awesome if the dev's open up the game engine so modders can build upon it, like with counterstrike, doom, etc...... HINT   HINT
;D ;D
Look how long counterstrike has been around. I know our community may not be quite as big(probably not even close), I know its wishful thinkng.:'(

I can only imagine the possibilities with all the talent here at TD...........

RaceX

Quote from: v_hoOk~ on December 03, 2005, 03:16:18 PM
Quote from: cR on December 03, 2005, 07:41:29 AM
Quote from: v_hoOk~ on December 03, 2005, 06:07:23 AM
but does anyone else realize the new community that will be coming? CHOCK FULL of new NEWBS!

I hope that doesn't mean *#*#*loads of 'stupid' frech *#*#*... they keep *#*#* up mcmfactory..lets not mention the new sites that definitly will come... meh :P

u know, i totally agree, the french can go die, they just need to keep out of some *#*#*... lol

Thanks for all of us loving this game and his community...

BoNalls

was talking to Nesc on msn, he said that MVA MP is only going to allow for 6 riders max????  >:(

Green_CRrider2

ummmmmmmmmm if you can read the site it was posted on i think its ign it says up to 8 racers can get dirty online.

v_hoOk~

read this post of mine

how long do you think the community will last when you have to pay for downloads or have to have your bandwidth SUCKED DRY by a torrent site, its crap, your killing it more than making it better....    its just another HUGE step for everyone to say, well, screw that, im not payin, or yeah, i think i can hold out and not get that track, ill just play mcm2.... and all the newbs you will turn away? they wont know how to expirienve MVA to its full potential because they will shy away from DOWNlOADING TRACKS. i really think you should get the paying idea out of your head, and just keep the option of donations and mirrors. Im sorry i have nothing to give or help out with money, but i wish the best of luck, im all for a good site for MVA but what your proposing isnt good enough i think.


VMX_D-Dub

Word to hook.

I dont play ANY online games for pc or consoles only cause I dont want to shell out more money when I already payed 50 damn bucks for it.





ThaRob182

Hey guys i use to play online a lot (cwb_robyzf) i think was my screen name ...anyway this is awesome news i can't wait to play it and its cool seeing old names again ...i remember twisted really good

cR

Hmm can't factory just be converted? And wasn't the owner of mcmfactory owner of Floogy? He got tons of HDD space and bandwich :P If people just will continue donating so he doesn't make alot off losses that would work right?

AUS_Twisted

#169
I think for track and skin creators etc, the upload page which has all the information about your track etc should also have a post your own link/links to your zip files or your own website link that hosts the files. I've always had all my tracks uploaded on my cables ISP server that are posted on my website which always comes in handy if people are having problems downloading from the main sites and it also spreads the bandwidth around some.

I'm sure if track creators wanted there tracks to be downloaded and help share the bandwidth around it shouldn't be to hard to find there own small webspace as a alternate. Usualy most ISP's offer a small amount of free webspace which can be used when the track is new and deleted later on if you dont have enough space to upload a new track.

Hey Rob, I remember you and think I still have that skin I put your name on for you which was left in a folder from years back along with other peoples lol.

LosCyco

Quote from: v_hoOk~ on December 05, 2005, 02:19:15 AM
read this post of mine

how long do you think the community will last when you have to pay for downloads or have to have your bandwidth SUCKED DRY by a torrent site, its crap, your killing it more than making it better....    its just another HUGE step for everyone to say, well, screw that, im not payin, or yeah, i think i can hold out and not get that track, ill just play mcm2.... and all the newbs you will turn away? they wont know how to expirienve MVA to its full potential because they will shy away from DOWNlOADING TRACKS. i really think you should get the paying idea out of your head, and just keep the option of donations and mirrors. Im sorry i have nothing to give or help out with money, but i wish the best of luck, im all for a good site for MVA but what your proposing isnt good enough i think.

See my idea, would it be reasonable to you?

v_hoOk~

yah, sounds good to me, i like that 300 crap there , nice idea


Kamshaft

#172
AUS_Twisted, that's a great idea! That can easily be added.
Noted.
Kam


VRT_JPRLisbon_

i see out there some other games that the track makers upload they tracks for they owne site and then upload the track pic , link and some coments to a site where people go to get them , as Twisted sayd , i think is good, if people search on the net they will find some sites that give 100mb´s for that (or more maybe) but the only problem that i have see on other games is that after some time some links start be donw and we cant get the tracks if we dont dwl on the 1º or 2º week (vacations or other that we are out of net) , well the solution is go to the site (MXa tracks site) and see what we want dwl and if the site is down we have to ask a friend to send us the tracks.
I think its a good solution but with this bad thing but im sure if anyone want a track and the link is down people will send it without problem.

As a read before here, i think the best is that thing of some pc with a big hard drive conneted to the net and people go to there by the link of MXa track dwls site and dwl from that pc (the pc need to be on 24h\24h , my internet company doesn´t alow me to do that , but im sure some other one alows that or im worng?
whith that thing its almost free since who do that just have to pay the internet connection ? (or im worng here? )
Dont know alot about this but i think this is the best way.
If this way dont work i would like know why ?

Ty
ohh and a demo before xmax whould be cooll with online races since game just go out on february hum!!!?  ;D

iLLo

demo with just one national or sx would be cool.. for online

ThaRob182

Quote from: AUS_Twisted on December 05, 2005, 07:25:05 AM
I think for track and skin creators etc, the upload page which has all the information about your track etc should also have a post your own link/links to your zip files or your own website link that hosts the files. I've always had all my tracks uploaded on my cables ISP server that are posted on my website which always comes in handy if people are having problems downloading from the main sites and it also spreads the bandwidth around some.

I'm sure if track creators wanted there tracks to be downloaded and help share the bandwidth around it shouldn't be to hard to find there own small webspace as a alternate. Usualy most ISP's offer a small amount of free webspace which can be used when the track is new and deleted later on if you dont have enough space to upload a new track.

Hey Rob, I remember you and think I still have that skin I put your name on for you which was left in a folder from years back along with other peoples lol.

HAHA thats cool and yeah i got that gear from you thanks again ...this game has me exited i can't wait to race with you all online again ....does anyone know when this game maybe released?

MCMnut

I don't think there is any one solution to the bandwidth problem, but probably a mix of everything mentioned above should be the way to go.  I can understand how those that aren't working or on a tight budget (or just cheap! :) ) won't want to fork out any cash.  There should be a solution for them, even if it means slower downloads or somewhat flakey links.  For the guys that have a few bucks to spare, maybe "membership" sites are an option to have really fast downloads.

As mentioned above, I think all track creators that can afford it should consider some kind of web space for their own stuff.  There's no better way to assure that your creations will stay around unless you make the effort to put them up on the web yourself.  I know I'm spending about $200 bucks a year supporting two sites that do nothing but provide free tracks and utilities to the community.  I'm sure this is way cheap in comparison to what Scott (X_xracer) pays for TD.  He's been paying it for years now with almost no monitary support and never complains.  After a while it's just something you do without even thinking about it.  Unfortunately not everyone out there realizes this and appreciates that what it takes for them to "get it for free".

I don't think I'll be going for the torrent thing but that's not to say that it won't work for others.  I think we should keep a lot of options open so people can pick and choose what's comfortable for them.

Jeff

LosCyco

If we go with Twisted's idea, we'll need a site like Garagedog's links site so tracks are still easy to find after they've been deleted.

AUS_Twisted

#178
With your own provided links in the track info you could use your own webspace link, a bit torrent link and plus the website download link thats hosting the track info etc if that happens aswell.

All 3 options above could be used for 1 track and if the main website goes with a yearly payment for it's members that can download straight from the server, the non paying members still have the other 2 options of downloading the tracks providing the track creators upload and post the seperate links for the track. If track creaters care so much about their tracks and want them to be played by everyone then I'm sure they can take the time to provide some extra download links.

Also for track creators etc, a edit option by the (creator/uploader) only to update the track infomation page with new or delete non working links would help a lot aswell, just think of it like a forum post where you can manage your picture attatchments or edit info etc. It would also save time for the website moderators not having to change the info or fix problems done by the creators that have happend so many times in the past, just look at Factory for example.

V_Muskaman

The people who have mentioned MCMfactory have a point in that it is a solution that is already in place. We really should be in contact with Madmac about what his bandwidth limits are and whether he is willing to take on a project like hosting MVA content. I'm sure this would still involve a lot of work but it seems to make some sense.

Also, IMO Central was a great host for the very large community we used to have. I'd love to see any new site follow a similar format in layout and functions.

Also really like Twisted's idea of self-hosting as a supplement. I know a lot of fools with their own space that wouldn't mind hosting themselves.