PR: MXvsATV coming to the PC and PSP

[VMX_SKYmx99]

^^^ hehe

[cR]

MXU only had split screen right?

Paul, any idea on what multiplayer code they are using? (hoping its not DX!!!!!!!). I want to have 20 person motos!!!! I think MVA only allows for 12 riders or something..... i forget what MXU allows for.

MXU only had split screen for 2 players right?

[VTF_Ace]

 

Tag is fun, your eyes are just not open yet

The more events the more fun, right? 

[Kamshaft]

Wow, this thread is getting big.  Hello, guys from Toronto!  Gonna check out the Supercross tonight, I can't wait.

I think the game will have everything (other than Tag and stuff) in it.  I can't imagine them taking steps backwards, at least from MX vs. ATV.  I have a few concerns,about online multiplayer and anti-cheat stuff.  Let's keep our fingers crossed.

Again, like ElDiablo said and would like to stress also to everyone. BUY the game, don't pirate it! Show your support!
If they make money, maybe then we won't have to wait another 6 years for another game!

If all goes well, we'll see this puppy on a yearly basis!! Maybe not, who knows.  Rainbow will look at the bottom line, and ask themselves.."Did we make money?"...If the answer is yes, then we are in luck.  If not, then we tried to show them our support.

I'm really hoping alot of the real (mcm1) OGs (I can't believe I just said that!) track-makin' gang comes back...like Racin' Joe, DaveU, just to name a couple.  And the new MCM2 OGs....man  those were the days folks!  With this new physics engine, and rag doll racer...old tracks should be a blast to take a spin on!

I personally, am gonna re-release the old Cameron Graphics tracks.  Maybe those Six2Studios tracks too! We'll see....still thinking about re-opening MCM2 Central...torrents seem to be the way to go!

Your thoughts?

[ElDiablo (Paul)]

Ya Steve...I think (like we talked about on the phone) the torrents maybe in combination with the option to pay for faster downloads might wind up being the way to go. That way...if you don't pay...you download torrents...and can still get all the tracks (it'll just take longer) or if you want to pay to help support the site...then you could download fast just like MCM Factory does now.

I think that's the best way to cut bandwidth costs and still have a site that everyone can enjoy (wether they choose to or can support the site or not).

As for the review system. I think that needs some revamping from the way it used to work. First of all...I think it would be advantageous to limit the number of people who can review and maybe you'd do that by saying only people who support the site can review. I for one WILL be supporting the site in any way that I can. I'm sure there's a few others.

You might want to approach some of the more respected MCM Factory reviewers (Ratax, GREEN_Rapidkey, Jagermeister, OTHG_Gospelboy2, Spodeboy, kxkrazyman821, B2R_Stingray, Garasaki, Mk7Bultaco, etc...) and see how many of them would like to be reviewers.

[The Loz]

I think it should be open for anyone to post comments/mini-reviews. C'mon, freedom of speech, people! For the respected reviewers, what about an invite-only site (MVA-reviews.com?) with the "definitive reviews"...

I really don't like the idea of bittorrent 'cuz my network blocks it but I guess that's just too bad... However I liked the idea that creators can download for free That would definitely drag me back out the woodwork....

~Loz

[DirtTwister]

I'm not a big fan of bittorrent.  I don't use it and won't.  I prefer to download stuff from respected sites that I trust.  I won't download stuff from any random computer.  I also won't randomly host stuff from my workstation.

I think we would be much better off creating a network of hosts that provide the bandwidth.  I don't know off the top of my head the best way to do that, but there has to be a fairly simple way to provide what I would call transparent mirrors.  Sort of a trusted mini bittorrent.

Somthing like this or any similar tool that can be configured so that it doesn't serve from your workstation and the list of hosts can be controlled by the user:

http://www.softpedia.com/get/Internet/File-Sharing/Phex.shtml


Bruce

[v_hoOk~]

word to that, torrent site is retarded i think, just makes *#*#* wayyyy more complicated, and something newbs can complain about, and paying is also retarded, i wont do either, i dont mean to be a dick, but seriously, expecting from people is stupid, if u want the scene ALIVE dont complicate things, torrents suck, theyre not always sucessful, and u can get siht of ur comp from em. stressing donations is good, MAYBE for a low price like 5 dollars a year, and you get your track and skin SHOWN ON THE MAIN PAGE, and if u dont register, u get on a not featured page, or blah blah.....

[PRO_Westy]

hehe funny we aint even seen the game yet just  a few screens and we are all on about bandwidth issues, but i can understand why..

1) Would be nice to know if MCMFACTORY is gonna support this

2_same goes for MDX RACING

3) One thing i would suggest is that all the hosting sites, make sure that only REGISTERED users can d/l tracks, but in addition to that no freeweb mail is allowed to regsiter with, ie ya hotmails yahoo gmail etc. Must be your ISP email.. This does cut down on the ppl regsitering with like 38 names etc etc..

4) sometimes a review system where ppl can actually type there review be it 50 words or less . is sometimes a downfall as you do get the how can i say ummm less favorable reviews, even when it hasnt been ridden, justa  simple points score  is sometimes better,of course that is also open to abuse , but it does save the bad mouthing etc.

5) you could make a site like most of the larger demo sites with a subscription for fast instant access d/l... and then a public mirror with only so many slots and on a much slower pipe. the slower pipe of course could only transfer X amount of data per day .at least the the costs are controlled, and the faster instant access should be covered by the subscriptions.

in addition to the above we also dont know who else ie new ppl may arrive just like we all did years ago and want to become a hosting site.

westy

[MotoX]

im pumped for this game here r a few images i found http://media.pc.ign.com/media/787/787367/imgs_1.html

[ENZO]

Is there anything known on the system requirements? because i feel my computer may not be up to standards so i may have to either upgrade my computer or buy a new one.

[DirtTwister]

I've said before, if it plays on a console it should play well on your PC.  If it doesn't then there is something wrong with your PC. 

At a minimum when playing games on PC's you should have an AGP video card.  If you have an AGP video card (not built into the motherboard) than I don't think you should have a problem.   The shared memory video built into motherboards are usually low end and could not be up to snuff for decent performance.   My wife's 2.8 ghz P4 is a dog with it's motherboard based video card.  It can't even get a 6000 in the 3DMark2001 SE benchmark.  While my daughter's old AMD 1700+ with an ATI 9000 pro video card plays most games fine.

Bruce

[iLLo]

what we need is turtlesroostway to come back :p

[VMX_SKYmx99]

Oh man, that would be so awesome.  That was my fav MCM2 site.

[Crashnburn11]

lots of stuff going on aroun here . ill have to pick this up when it comes out

[V_Muskaman]

Ahhh Roostway. Legitimate track contests.....SNAP OUT OF IT!

On the torrent issue, may I just add that someone with dialup will not be able to properly seed their track file as no one will want to dl off of them.

Also, with so many dedicated creators/supporters coming back I think funding will be less of an issue than we think. I know of sites that have a donation meter for every month to remind people of how far it is to the goal. To know that there is a constant threat of the site not being funded & shutting down is usually enough to get people's asses in gear.

I would definitely support a new site with donations and defitely am willing to offer my time in helping. If someone can get a solid plan for a site in place we can start accepting donations from the hardcore folks right away....Just a thought.

[RRC_OiLbUrNeR]

Lets get one thing straight, will this be a free game (besided paying for it at the shop, you dont have to pay on going fee's to play online) Most of the new games cost money to play online.

[iou]

track downloads is the exact thing that Bittorrent was designed for..... mass distribution of LEGAL files saving on server reliability and bandwidth costs.....
as long as people seed 1:1 on any track they download, the system works fine.... the RIAA or the MPAA aren't gonna be after you coz you are uploading LEGAL material.... i think maybe have a ratio system in place so that if you aren't at 1:1... you have to wait a certain time before you can download the newer tracks.... at only a 'estimated' 15mb each.... shouldn't be too hard to maintain 1:1....

then phaps a donation system whereby if you donate, you can have any ratio you want and still be able to download, or maybe access to a private server link....

i think as long as the track sites work together, ANY system could work.... its just that when its just one site taking all the hits.... it doesn't last for long

[ElDiablo (Paul)]

Well...the idea of having bittorrent AND faster (pay) downloads was presented to me in the line of creators UPLOADING (as in the old days of MCM Central) and the script would create the SEED. Then the site would have control (depending on wether or not you were a supporter) over wether you had to download by torrent or directly (fast).

Before you guys go 'stonewall' against any idea that saves bandwidth AND money for the proposed site, keep this in mind. Nobody HAS to create a site at all, and nobody has committed to do so yet! What Kam asked for was ideas on how this all would work...not how you wouldn't participate because he used torrents...if you can't provide an alternative then leave the negativity out please.

I like the idea also of the slower mirrors for non-supporters. Very good stuff. Lets keep the POSITIVE ideas flowing and keep this conversation up-beat. 

[DirtTwister]

We probably should have a new thread to discuss the bandwidth problem/solutions that are community has.  People do need to understand that BitTorrent is a consumer of your personal bandwidth.  How many people have complained about their online performance while playing MCM 2 and the problem is the stuff that others are downloading from your computer (Kazaa, Napster, Morpheus, xTorrent, etc.)

Quote from BitTorrent's official web site.

I don't want you stealing my bandwidth! How can I stop it from uploading?

You could hack the source to not upload, but then your download rate would suck. BitTorrent downloaders engage in tit-for-tat with their peers, so leeches have very little success downloading.

I think our solution should be a pool of willing sources, without forcing the downloaders to become hosts.

Bruce