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Quote from: mcm2boys on January 20, 2005, 10:12:59 AM
I recently opened TDZ to everyone, though you have to register at the TDZ first before you can use it. You used to have to be a member of TD forums because the forums and TDZ were both on the same server and so it was easy to copy the data across automatically from the forums to TDZ, but now they sit on different servers so that's no longer possible. This also helped to keep the idiots out. I would prefer that people using TDZ were registered on the forums mainly because that's where all the update info is released but i guess it isn't necessary.
The order of registration is pretty much like you have it here's a little update:
1) With your browser goto http://www.twisteddirt.com/zone/index.php. This is the TDZ home page where you login and get to all the other good stuff - like the Help page!!!.
2) If you are not already a member of TDZ then register here first, otherwise you can login here and go to your profile page.
Note: Use the name you ride with in MCM2 as your username since this is the name StartGate uses to log you in as well. If your username isn't one of your profile names then Startgate won't be able to log you in.
3) Download the latest Startgate program and unzip it anywhere you like, i created my own folder 'C:\Program files\Startgate'.
4) Read the Startgate Help file! There's usefull information in there for newbies.
5) Run StartGate, at the login page select the rider profile you registered with on the TDZ and enter the same password you registered with. Then press Login. :)
6) Enter a Lobby by double clicking on one in the list, then you can Host or Join a room and chat - like you would on the MS zone. Press Launch when you're ready to race.
Notes for people behind firewalls or routers:
Startgate can't always detect your internet IP address when you are behind a router or firewall, if this happens to you then 1 of a number of things may happen:
1) People trying to join your room will get a message like 'Can't enumerate connections on xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx'.
2) You may join a room and when you start the race you will get booted back to Startgate.
3) You may start up MCM2, but when the race is launched you are booted back to the Main menu or Startgate.
The fix for this is to check the 'Prompt for IP' check box at the login screen. Then when you host a room or join a room you should be asked for your internet IP address. If the address starts with '192.168.xxx.xxx' then that is your local network IP address and not the Internet IP address.
Another issue for people behind firewalls and routers is port forwarding. You will need to make sure that the following ports on your router are forwarded to the local network IP address for the computer you are racing on. Otherwise you might get the same problems listed above.
47624 TCP Inbound
2300-2400 TCP Inbound
2300-2400 TCP Outbound
2300-2400 UDP Inbound
2300-2400 UDP Outbound
How you do this depends on which router you have. Ask around - most routers have been used so somone should be able to help. If you already have it set up and working with MS zone then it should work ok here too. If you cannot set up port forwarding then you may need to put your computer in the DMZ instead - if you don't know how to do that also ask around as it's hardware dependent.
That should be about all you need to know to get started.
Have fun
Laurie
Quote from: OTHG_BPh_Designs on April 02, 2014, 04:57:44 PM
Hi, that's an old subject, I know, but I'm wondering if the TDzone is still working.
We need a time recorder for the MCM2revival community, and when I try to connect to the TDzone, it doesn't work.
Only new registration is working. Also, Startgate can't be downloaded.
Thks in advance.
Phil. ;)
We can continue the discussion here ... ;)
It was working, but a while back Bruce moved the forums and TDZ from where it was over to one of his servers - it might have moved again since then. TDZ used to run off the same user database as the forums so you could use the same login details, but that probably broke when the forum was updated and with the move to the new server since database access would most likely be different.
It's been a while since i looked at TDZ or Startgate so I couldn't easily say how easy it would be to get it back up and running. Bruce would need to get involved as well..?
Would be good though to see it get used again..
When you say Startgate can't be downloaded, you mean you found the link on the profile page and it shows an error when you try to click on it, or you can't see the link..?
It just seems that the .zip file is no more there. I see the link.
And, ho, yeah, please, Bruce !!! Please ;D ;)
Thks Laurie 8)
Ahh, ok - I can't fix that since my FTP access seems to be broken.
I have put startgate on my server until TD can be fixed but it can't login to TDZone at the moment - i tried and the TD server isn't accepting the connection. Also it needs to be run as administrator.
Link removed because TDZone works again.. :)
This is the last beta so might have some bugs but it's the latest version.
Big thanks to Bruce for getting me straigthened out with the server. TDZone is back up and running. I removed the link in the post above since the download is available from your profile page once you are registered and logged into TDZ.
Maybe it'll get some use now.
Have fun..
WOW I'll try that later this day !
Thanks so much guys !
See u soon.
Some stuffs don't work, chat in the lobby, (joining a room), etc.
Edit : In fact, I forgot to click in the Prompt for IP box.
Now we can race (test made with 3 racers), records are posting in the database but there is a problem in the records links, when I click on a track link to see the records, I see everytime the same riders on a track that have nothing to have with the choosed track, like that :
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We are still doing tests ... but chat in the main lobby doesn't work at all, works only in rooms.
Now I'll try to config the ports of my router, it's not easy but I'll do it :P
10.000 times THANKS guys !
I don't think chat in the lobby ever worked.. It's only written to chat in a room - i think - it was a long time ago.. :)
The records link is probably a similar problem to what caused it to not work at all - i can take a look and see what's happening.. - fixed it now you should see the times for the track that you selected..
Glad to hear it is useful.. :)
It's true, all is working again !
Thanks guys, it's so great ;-)
The MCM2 story can continue ;D
I'm back ;D ;D ;D
Any chance to see the TDzone available for 1 racer ?
I mean ... starting the game with only one player inside a room, it's for the time recorder !
I just hope more people will join the TD zone later in the season, in autumn & winter ...
See u 8)
Quote from: BPh on April 04, 2014, 02:36:10 PM
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Nice to see my first place- hot lap after all these years... :)
It's a while back since i worked on it now, so i don't remember exactly why the Race button is disabled with only 1 player. I have a feeling that mcm2 needs 2 players to start a multiplayer session, but maybe not..
Also if i remember right people can't join you once you're in game, because the room gets locked once the race starts..
@Bob - it's an all TD top 6 front row lockout.. :)
Quote from: BPh on April 24, 2014, 08:18:05 PM
Any chance to see the TDzone available for 1 racer ?
Have you tried install mcm2 2 times ? ;D ;D ;D
Or install it on Vmware player or VirtualBox ?
^^^^With this ones , i think it will not work but....
Or install it in your old pc too ? With this one should work , unless that there are IP conflicts tho.
TDzone is off again .
EDIT:
The firewall was blocking the version StartGate 1.33 b7 lol
hey guys, we are 6-8 riders every night on gameranger, but it would be nice to play on td cuz it records lap times!
Hope to see you guys !!
JPR,
so it is working ok..?
Yes ,its working fine now , firewall was blocking the version 1.33 b7 .
Laurie , in the download link of startgate , the download is of the version 1.33 beta6 , but the latest version is the 1.33 beta7 , i think would be better change the link so that we can use the latest version (beta 7 should be better than beta 6 tho)
StartGate133b7.zip
Hi Banjo , register in the TDzone (if you haven't done that) and lets race some tracks .
I'll take a look at putting beta7 up. The reason i haven't put it up before was that i don't think it was finished, but since i haven't worked on it for a long time now, it's probably as finished as it will get any time soon..
..ok the beta7 has been updated and the program reports the correct version number now as well.
Note: I should warn that there have been 2 changes of compiler since i last worked on StartGate so to make any modifications will need me to put a big effort into converting it for the new compiler. What this means is.. don't expect any updates anytime soon.. :-\
JP, I did your idea lol, MCM2 installed on an old XP computer, Startgate b7 too, 2 different accounts, ingame and in TDzone,
but Startgate couldn't enumerate connections,
there's still IP conflicts,
Is there someone here who can help us please ?
Was it possible to play online (Gaming Zone by example) MCM2 with 2 computers, in the past ?
By the way, thanks Laurie, one more time.
You can host a race in TDzone\mcm2 racing with other person ?
If not , you need check your firewall and router settings.
I could launch a tdzone\mcm2 race using vmware player with the same tdzone profile X2 , with the same mcm2 profile X2 , but after be in mcm2 ready to run the track , i go to vmware to click the ready button and vmware crashs lol
But as you are doing using 2 pcs its much better than with vmware .
Join to tdzone in the next days and we will try if you can host .
I can host, no problem, already done some races with Pig, or his dog, I don't remember well :-)
My problem is how to play with 2 gamers from 2 different pc's but from the same IP.
See u lata ...
Your ISP doesn´t alow you to use more than 1 IP ? (mine let me use 2)
Then , with a moden\router in your old pc , you are ok to play .
Yeah, maximum 1 IP address for me :-X
Well, I'm going crazy ...
I did this :
MCM2 installed on an old IBM Thinkpad,
Startgate installed on it with my second account.
I used the connection from my smartphone (different IP of course - 3G connection and not Wi-Fi - not the same provider),
firewall ok, ... you know what ? ...
System : Couldn't enumerate connections !
I tried the 2 ways, hosting a room with the 2 pc's, same result !
My ports are open on my main pc, I have no idea why it doesn't work.
I'm crying now, I'm lost, please TD crew, allow us to launch the game when we are alone in a room !
:'( :'( :'(
(http://i39.servimg.com/u/f39/16/76/00/91/smiley10.png)
You have a lovely smile.. :)
Do you always get this or is it just when you try to connect with 2 PCs through you're router? If it's only with 2 PCs is it alwas the 2nd PC that won't connect?
Sorry but I'm afraid at the moment I can't compile that code anymore. I have moved on to newer compilers and there are backward compatibility problems between the compilers so it just won't compile without some serious work on it and i am already committed to some other projects which i need to do 1st.
I'm not sure i understand why you want to race multiplayer on your own, you could just run in single player mode..?
Quote from: mcm2boys on June 05, 2014, 10:27:58 PM
You have a lovely smile.. :) Thks lol
Do you always get this or is it just when you try to connect with 2 PCs through you're router? It happens only when I try to connect with 2 PCs through my router.
If it's only with 2 PCs is it alwas the 2nd PC that won't connect ? I tried to host from different pc's, allways "Couldn't enumerate connections" alert.
Sorry but I'm afraid at the moment I can't compile that code anymore. I have moved on to newer compilers and there are backward compatibility problems between the compilers so it just won't compile without some serious work on it and i am already committed to some other projects which i need to do 1st. Keep your time lol, good luck.
I'm not sure i understand why you want to race multiplayer on your own, you could just run in single player mode..? It's just because the community is so small yet, I want to post some records and not racing for "nothing" hehe. But some others are interested to post some records too, when they are alone online.
Thks & see you later ;)
hey guys i have a small problem, i cant log in TD zone, i am logged in on Forums with RXR_Banjo and my usual password, but it doesnt work for TD zone?
There used to be a time when TD Zone and the forums were linked and used the same user database, ut the forum has changed since then and that isn't so anymore. So you will need to create a new account in the TD Zone separate from TD's forums..
but why does it say RXR_Banjo already exists when i try to create a new one?
Probably because your account already exists. But it isn't linked to the forum anymore so it sounds like it will be one of your old passwords..
i've tried all of my old passwords that i could remember and it doesnt work.. is there a way you could find it ? or a password retrieval ?
Other option is to create a new account with a new name I guess?
I have reset and PMd you a temp. password..
thx !
cool Laurie, thanks !
Any news about Startgate & TDzone in solo mode Laurie ? ;)
Hey BPh
sorry but i don't see me getting to this for a very long time - i have a todo list a mile long already and it will be a big time commitment..
Is a mile long = a month ? lol, ok, I'm out ;D ;D ;D
Sry Bph, i hate to leave you hanging on this but my list just got longer.. well really the list is the same length but the time i have free to process the list just got much less, which has the same effect..
I understand very well.
Some news about TDzone & Stratgate @ home ...
I've a new Internet provider, before it was a phone line (ADSL), now I have a connection via the television cable (55Mb/s), and you know what ? ...
I can launch a game vs my second Startgate account ... but no records are posted on the TDzone Website >:(
Another bug, in my last race, I selected the 600 XR and ingame it was the XR but with the 250 engine :o and my second account (another computer near the main one so) all was ok. Of course, the second account never finish a race, is it important ?
:o ::) ??? 8) ;D ;)
Is the TDzone working ?
Because my ports are open and all is ok here now ...
and no new records are posted.
I don't honestly know, i haven't looked at it in years and I just don't remember whether everyone has to finish in order to post a time - i don't think so but can't be sure.